Ms Grace Kwinjeh joins heated discussion!

No many of the current MDC leaders will pass the class or ideological
test as you put it. I can give you a breakdown of who owns what or who
is friends with who- and perhaps remind you that the restaurant in
which Lucia Matibenga was removed belongs to a senior MDC female
member - neither should I remind you that Matibenga a trade unionist
was replaced by a top class business woman, and a confessed friend of the Chiwenga's.

If you have visited Cleapotra beauty salons they cater for the wealthy- not even this cde can afford their services -amongst other business interests. There is nothing wrong with owning a business - Tsvangirai himself is a beneficiary of various business people who sympathise with his cause - what is wrong is exploitation,cronyism, dictatorship.

Soros whom you mention is involved in good ventures - he is giving back
to society to some of us so we realise our ideals of justice and freedom.Read Soros history then maybe you will understand what informs his involvement in the quest for liberty,in the fight against capitalism - he is a fierce critic of the USA
foreign policy.

And then if our wounds our fight for democracy over the years has not
been about opening spaces so that those like Makoni can freely express
themselves - without our own Chinotimbas threatening them - demeaning
them- then I shudder what the wounds have been for. What is the legacy
we are building that like Zanu we have fought this struggle and non
but ourselves should benefit from it???

Grace Kwinjeh (gkwinjeh@gmail.com)
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B Musonza:
Yes, Sis Grace, I admit they won't pass, the class, and ideological
test
as you put it. Me too in my small ways I am a businessman operating in
Zimbabwe, all out of my handwork, from where I am based. Working life
in
Zimbabwe has never been the same lately for the people back home.
Anyway, I am not into cheap shots of Hair saloons and restaurants, and
all the hand-bags that comes with it.

The issue, for me is, let's seize this moment to create institutional
blocks of ideological beliefs based on what we have and if we push them
into coalitions, when they are competing for different goals, then they
will only seek to destroy each other from within those coalitions and
the end product is another stagnation. Remember, Zanu PF used to "own"
ZCTU, and had very much influence on the goings-on at Confederation of
Zimbabwe Industries, ZNCC etc.

I would rather have them exist as follows:

Beyond Mugabe (Zanu PF and nationalism - Conservatism i.e.. good for
the
upkeep of our culture, peasant farming and reminder to the liberation
struggle),

Beyond Tsvangirai (the labour movement - working for the betterment of
our wages and working conditions, and as eye to the living standards)

Beyond Makoni (The business agenda - concerns for the business sector
and technological advancement through Research and Development etc)

In modern times, business has been drifted in between the left and
right. In America, they have remained with the Republicans, while
Labour
is embedded in the Democrats, in UK New Labour has taken the business
sector aboard from the Tories.

Lets see what they stand for and let them exist in their ethos.
Whatever
the current problems in their leaderships, let them grow and clean
their
act, for the future. That way, our democracy will strive for the good
of
our country. The 3 pillars of State, Judiciary, Legislature and
government will all operate with inherent checks and control measures
institutionalised from the onset of our current on-going transitional
politics.

Zanu PF must not be allowed to die, and so is MDC and the business
agenda must be allowed to grow as a stake holder, and so we must not
force coalitions.

My sentiments on anti-coalitions are very strong because I see other
groups seeking to dominate others. We're moving away from independence
politics dominated by a liberation movement to a period we should be
building institutionalised political bodies that strives for posterity.
We don't have to be forming political parties every other election
because the one we had was persuaded into a coalition. Nope!

On the final note, Sis Grace, George Soros is George Soros. There is
what is called the new World Order, controlled by the masons; they give
with the right and take with the left.

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From kuthulamatshazi@yahoo.co.uk

Soros is not as good as Grace suggests. This is where as Zimbabweans we get lost. If people splash a couple of dollars then we think they are good. Its sadt that ist people who are going to occupy high offices who say such things. Look beyond his "charity organisation". First, how did he get his money? Through the destruction of these very economies and now he is trying to cover his tracks through "philanthrophy. Soros and his friends are the architects of the current rampaging financial markets which have caused untold suffering in the world and felt more acutely in the developing countries including, YES ZIMBABWE. Soros has been the champion of embedded liberalism seeing things from a purely monetarist viewpoint and disregarding the social consequences of their pursuit of profit. He killed the world and now he has been able to buy the best brains to recast him as a champion of philanthrophy and some of us fall for this. I feel for Africa!!!!
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